If this happens, the Custodes could possibly follow Guilliman instead of protecting the throne (if they believe this is the Emperor's will), and thus move towards being their own faction. He spoke in the tongue of Ulthran’s people of Ulthwé. Every time I try to think about this I realize that adding up the age of multiple historical founders of IRL religions still doesn't come close to the age of the Imperium. What did the emperor say to Roboute? After the long pilgrimage Guiliman enters the inner sanctum and is alone with the emperor for some time. When Guilliman meets the Lion again in 40k. The humans suffered massively during the Age of Strife, and by the time of the Great crusade, the Fall happened fairly recently, and we have two kinds of. He had hoped for better from the Primarch. After some time, the boy receives visions of the future, one. Which makes sense, given his particular talents and strengths. After venting his initial fury on the Traitor forces arrayed against them, Guilliman took command of the planet’s defence and drove back the invaders with all the strategic brilliance for which he was renowned. Fan base takes that and runs all the way to “THEY FUKKED, GUILLIMAN IS A XENO LOVER. Option 2: After 10k years of being tortured by a glorified toilet seat, He's got no time to lose on being nice and shit and Guilliman thinking "He must've always. And RG is a. I think Thiel and Dolor trump Gage, if only because Gage disappeared on the Macragge's Honour chasing Kor Phaeron after Calth and didn't return until after Bobby G was put in stasis. It was always the Lion doing stuff Guilliman hated. Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. Either that or Lukas kills Lucius, takes over his body, and the next person to kill Lucius-in-Lukas's-body triggers the stasis grenade and Lucius is stuck there. When Guilliman gives and order you have to imagine the fucking god Emperor himself got up of his throne and came and told you the same. There is a reason why the emperor wanted him to come back first before the lion or any of his other brothers. It is unknown to any but Guilliman whether or not Guilliman actually had any communication with his father during his time in the throne room, but I say it didn't happen, maybe it was all in his head, and here is why: It is said that Lion El'Johnson, mortally wounded during his fight with Luther, was taken in secret by the Watchers in the Dark. 3 After his resurrection, Roboute Guilliman has gained an audience with his father, the Emperor of Mankind. Mathieu was thankfully unmoved. Please go read them if you can. Roboute and the Emperor. So, we know that Guilliman talked with the. Monarchia, then was both lesson and warning. 'Guilliman. By all accounts, the XIII Legion was one of the most effective measured by quantity of successful compliances. As any us would be, Guilliman is rightly upset having been lied to and feels used and betrayed. I want to hear you say it. Guilliman has very different goals for the Imperium than the Emperor did. ‘What is the purpose you have in mind for me?’ asked Guilliman. Guilliman looked to the book. In the books Guilliman describes the Emperor as not only full of bullshit for his 'oh, I totally need you, you're the bestest', but also describes the Emperor as unsubtle and infinitely cold. Bare with me because I am only about a third of the way into Dark Imperium so its entirely possible some of these issues will be addressed as the story progresses, but Guilliman appears to be doing the same stupid crap the Emperor did and the Guilliman himself did before he got put in stasis. But the reality is, his death would get out. Was Roboute Guilliman the chosen heir to the Emperor?General Spoiler Warning to begin as the events. Within the universe, Guilliman very well may be capable of showing them all a better way (notwithstanding that this "better way" is coming from a man who commits genocide on a Tuesday), which is exactly why out of universe it'll never happen. I mean, if the chamber militant of the inquisition that are the Grey Knights look to be siding with him, I think pretty much any marine chapter (outside of say, DA and Minotaurs) will. I find this hard to believe due to a couple of reasons below. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. 'I apologise. ‘But in your holiness, you did not turn. Drach'nyen may be one of these. Templars- Absolutely!It was made pretty clear in the Dark Imperium Novels that Guilliman largely disapproves of the Ecclesiarchy and, in general, the religion created around the Emperor. When Guilliman went into stasis he was objectively a loyal servant of the Emperor. Crickets_Head • 6 mo. ‘Guilliman. Glaring whiteness blazed from the crevasses. In that state, He denies He is cold as Magnus accuses Him of being. Two legends meet each other. Nor did the Emperor. Guilliman is effectively dead on the floor during most of the exchange. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. This is not just any loyal primarch, this is the Lion, and Guilliman has been in a similar situation before. Could be that the Emperor did not want to answer but the question arises why he did not. . So inhumanly neutral. I was always told the God Emperor’s Sword was one of the most powerful melee weapons in the galaxy, able to permanently kill demons in an instant. So let’s say the Lion wakes up and comes back to join the fight on the Imperial side. Big E probably knew where Lion was, and knows where Russ, Corax, Dorn, and Vulkan are. Ever since Guilliman came back with the help of Yvraine and Eldrad, people have been asking what his exact stance on working with Xenos is. 1. They did get extra attention from the Emperor and were his chosen Legion until they were given to The Lion. When the blade had been presented to Guilliman by the captain-general of the Adeptus Custodes after the Emperor’s fall, it had somehow fitted his primarch’s stature. So it actually not out of character. Anybody who says anything other than "it could potentially go either way" is being silly. ‘He is not a god,’ said Guilliman out loud. It was the look of the blindly faithful. Why would Guilliman's political enemies say that the God Emperor ordered Guilliman to nuke an emptied temple-city, when they can say that Guilliman nuked a temple-city of the God Emperor? If they time the announcement right, half the Imperium could be ready to overthrow another Horus before Guilliman can try doing fact-checked damage control. The Emperor appreciates that and it’s why he is so favored, along with his pretty independent action, which probably screws with the Lion’s head to no end. There is a reason why the emperor wanted him to come back first before the lion or any of his other brothers. Gallan, it transpired, had long harboured designs on undiluted rulership and had consp…I don't think that Guilliman references the Emperor as a reason behind the Indominitus Crusade or as an inspiration for his dealings with Belisarius Cawl (which began before Guilliman went into stasis). ‘I can never believe that,’ he said. When ROGAL DORN of all Primarchs is criticizing the Emperor, you know it's serious. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. He did not hear them at all. Think about it, Guilliman was the only primarch. Both the Emperor and Malcador hint that Guilliman was their back up and they intended for him to take over should the Emperor be lost. Mighty heroes battle for the right to rule the galaxy. It is good to be reminded that I am a person as well as a. Titus Prayto held his master’s stare and nodded confirmation. Guilliman turned away and strode towards the occupied cell. ‘Roboute Guilliman. He reached out, and the Emperor’s Sword appeared in his hand, and burned with the fires of a thousand suns. One of the most important points in the current Warhammer 40k lore is the encounter between Primarch Roboute Guilliman and the Emperor of Mankind from Warhammer 40000. The Emperor did not love His sons. Emperor meeting with Imperator Guilliman of Ultramar Empire together with President Angron of Nurceria would be hilarious. Well, Rogal did say the Emperor's delusions were growing worse. Guilliman seems to have been more flexible in his execution, allowing commanders of forces to dictate new tactics as necessary while he did the same with the forces he commanded directly. The line of Custodian guards parted at the center to allow him to stand before the Lion. ‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. In fact that's probably what made him one of the most adjusted and functional Primarchs, He suffered Loss and Failure, BEFORE The Emperor Arrived and that made him more introspective and self-critical, Rather than pushing all blame onto The. An empire, half-built. ’ ‘Liar. While guilliman learns from mistakes and gradually become better, horus is impossibly good. You could argue that Guilliman, Lion and Russ could distract Horus enough for the emperor to make a deadly blow. He had never felt sympathy for angron before. One more theory is that the Emperor was setting up for a civil war between the Primarchs as Malcador discussed in Malcador - The First Lord of the Imperium. When Guilliman had his initial conversation with the Emperor after returning, he finds this out. The plan was 3-fold. 21. Templars- Sounds right. With the telling quote, Guilliman doesn't know if the Emperor is a god now or not but if he is, he isn't worth worshiping. oh lord, Leg's head is going to explode. Yet all of them loyal to the Emperor and the Imperium to the core, and so also to each other. Apart from Faffnr, none of the Wolves had risen or shown any deference. A Space Marine fighting a Primarch by himself. NONE OF YOU EVER WERE" bit seemed especially hamfisted and everything started to fall apart afterward in terms of the cohesiveness if the writing. genteel_wherewithal • 4 yr. 10. "You seriously need to get laid but not even a rock would do it with you. It like how scotland has a kilt but we say it is a skirt, different culture different rules. In any of these 3 cases, Guilliman is alone to "fix" the Imperium, so he has no need for keeping in mind his father's desires. Too late, the Neverborn understood the danger it was in, and tried to flee. Guilliman's characterization, as well as the subtlty of his realizations about his father, seemed highly inconsistent with their portrayal in Dark Imperium. Man, that's beautiful. In fact that entire section of Roboute Guilliman's fandom page seems to be the entire chapter almost. The demons refer to him as The Anathema and Mortarion refers to him as "Father". You will not wield it against me. Why can't we understand the Emperor's morals. Credits:Rowboat Girlyman art by Adrián Prado: Divina by. The Lion survived a planet exploding. First, when Guilliman was wounded by Fulgrim, Emperor literally pulls Guilliman out of the Warp, keeping him alive long enough to be put into stasis. 'Roboute Guilliman. It was actually kind of wild that Guilliman when given the chance didn't give Mortarion the true death he deserved. Guilliman literally had an empire. Guilliman literally had an empire. The priest shrugged. ’ His voice softened further, becoming yet more human, and his heroic expression did not change exactly, but he somehow became more relatable. ‘He created me, but I assure you, priest, that He was no father. So Guilliman believes it is not the Emperor that creates Saints, but that their intense belief in the Emperor manifests latent psyker abilities. By helping Angron, Guilliman would avoid breeding the same kind of animosity that the Emperor did. Once you have torn that blasphemy down, raise up the population of Baal Secundus. ’ ‘I am not holy,’ said Guilliman. ’ ‘Guilliman. "The Emperor was working on a timeline that didn’t have much wiggle room That said, he did tell Land that the Nails were the only thing keeping Angron alive and he couldn’t remove them without killing him, so it’s also possible the the Nails have damaged Angron in a way that prevents the Emperor from fixing him after deathMortarion already had quite a bit to say about the appointment of Horus, imagine adding conflicted loyalties and "local" politics to that as well. The moment that Guilliman realizes, after struggling with his frustration with the Emperor for the entire book, that they are alike; and a necessary evil for the survival of mankind. That's the 9 loyal Primarchs, all had reasons for staying loyal. The heat of anger coming off him beat at Mathieu. Along with the conclusion of a story that’s been in the works since the days of Roboute Guilliman’s awakening, new editions of the original books (Dark Imperium and Plague War) are soon to be available for pre-order. Guilliman had seen the look on the priest’s face too many times on other holy men. I'd say Guilliman would have been a better. Reply reply. ‘Your killer. 53 votes, 36 comments. When the Emperor appears to Magnus during the Siege, He projects into Magnus’ mind as a glowing sun-god and they burn through the warp together, moving through billions of years in moments. Emperor was trying to tell them to pick up the pace. Based on the available information, the Emperor became stronger after his trip to Molech from first hand sources such as Alivia Sureka. In fealty to Sesc Company, of the Rout, of the Vlka Fenryka. As soon as it turns sunshine and rainbows it's not 40k anymore. The being he had thought of as a father could hide nothing from him. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. ‘Guilliman. "Listen to me. Thus, by definition, the Inquisition is his to command. Guilliman is not loyal to the Emperor, he is loyal to humanity and will do what it takes for them. Guilliman, and his forces that the defenders could have really used, showed up after E had killed. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. Mortarion was trying to pull all of ultramar into warp and needed to kill Guilliman by disease but he ended up calling to emperor who set fire to the garden. **. Now there is only Guilliman left, the only demi god that the emperor decided to rez (whether or not it was Guilliman who originally planned it, or Cawl, or Yvraigne, or whoever it doesn't really matter - if the emperor didn't want it to happen, it wouldn't have). ‘Yes,’ Mathieu smiled serenely. The Emperor did not love His sons. Primarch Weapons. With words of light and fire, the Emperor had conferred with His returned primarch, the last of his finest creations. He was not the man who brought the rasp; he was the rasp. No bad blood, just “thank god, someone competent to have my back. ’ Guilliman looked at the girl’s mutilated body. Life_South_907 Dark Angels • 1 yr. My personal theory is it wasn't the Emperor who possessed Guilliman, but his[Guilliman's] presence in the Warp. However, I don’t think that’s going to be the case, because the Lion and Guilliman are not going to be on the same page. Guilliman stopped his walking and looked down at the woman. Colquan glared him. He did not hear them at all. He hates this fallen, dark Imperium, and wishes to restore it to the glory of the pre-Heresy Days. Tau try to annex Imperial Worlds thinking the Great Rift weakened them. Context: After a mean fight with the Night Lords and Konrad, Guilliman and the Lion are teleported to Sotha thanks to Dantioch activating the Pharos. Guilliman had expected nothing. ’ He heard all these at once. r/40kLore • 5 yr. The few crew on the command deck tried very hard not to listen in. The Silent King looms over him, ready to stab him through the heart. Despite the Emperor absolutely detesting Roboute Guilliman and wanting his life support cut off, in the Gathering Storm event of 40k canon, Guilliman finally awakens and has the exact same horrified and furious reaction to the bottomless cruelty and stupidity of the 41st millennium Imperium as the text-to-speech Emperor did. It's why the last line of the novel, when the guy asks Guilliman "did the Emperor say he loves us all? I’d also say we could chalk it up to Guilliman making the statement and not the Emperor. By sacrificing their children to the Emperor’s service, they have earned a better life. Guilliman had it easy compared to Angron, but Angron never tried to push past his circumstances and essentially just gave up once the Emperor gave him the War Hounds. While the emperor wasn't a god at the start, 10000 years of the imperial creed being worshipped over thousands of planets has changed that. He also probably chooses Guilliman because he's a governor as well as a soldier: the intent would be to show Lorgar that enlightened leadership of mortals was absolutely fine and even encouraged, but it had to be done by the tenets of the Imperial Truth. He says He’s just pragmatic, as a single weakness would. He does acknowledge that some might see his actions as traitorous to the Imperium, but his goal was saving. Plot summary of Gathering Storm I: Fall of Cadia. Guilliman is base around rome and if you look at what romans use to wear, robes and lots of robes. 0 like Horus. ‘Father, I have returned. ’ Achallor dipped his head. The books are quite enjoyable and brought out some great contradictions between Guilliman and the God-Emperor religion. Commander Dante was nearly killed by the Tyranid on Baal, while recovering in what remain of the Blood Angel's Fortress Monastery he receives word that their saviors, The Primarch Roboute Guilliman, the Ultramarines, and a strange new type of Space Marine, had landed. 3. The Emperor was never a god, denied He was a god and has been wrongly elevated by men who see power and mistake it for divinity. Guilliman's return sparked Mortarion's interest in material affairs once more, and for the first time in 10,000 years he decided to lead the whole of the Death Guard in a renewed campaign. I believe this excerpt from Dawn of Fire: The Gate of Bones gives the clearest answer we've had so far. ‘I know that, but I would no sooner bend my knee to him than to Horus. At these rumoured stats, he'll be using the sword against most targets since he'll have 14 attacks and wound T4 on a 2 plus at D2. The traitor Primarchs make sense from their perspectives too. "That's a rare weapon indeed," Magnus said, "A useless and broken weapon. The Minotaurs can say what they want, if Guilliman wants them to charge into the Cicatrix Maledictum then they'll have to go, regardless of their opinion or whomever they think they report to. He awoke from death to find himself fighting a war he thought he had won a hundred centuries before. An Emperor who can still speak clearly and say something like "you will assume this title and do these tasks" is not an Emperor that Guilliman would renounce. In the new lore the Emperor didn't consider the Primarchs his sons but rather tools to be used and discarded. By all accounts, the XIII Legion was one of the most effective measured by quantity of successful compliances. To nobody's surprise Imperium is not very good with timekeeping and preserving true history. Thanks to MANSCAPED for sponsoring today's video! Get 20% OFF + Free International Shipping with my promo code "MAJORKILL" at meets the Emperor in 40k and is shocked when he understands that his "father" doesn't give two shits about his "son" returning. When Guilliman went into stasis he was objectively a loyal servant of the Emperor. The vast armies of the Emperor of Earth have conquered the galaxy in a Great Crusade – the myriad alien races have been smashed by the Emperor’s elite warriors and wiped from the face of history. Basically if Guilliman had the time he would and could make the Imperium into a bigger Ultramar. ‘I did not say I disapproved, Yassilli. The emperor considers Guilliman his greatest achievement and hope for mankind. Guilliman - bursts through the wall like the Kool-Aid Man FUCK THE BOOK!!. The Emperor and Guilliman complained, his father continuing, "Why the hell would you want it doing that!" "That is an incredibly inefficient method for a rifle. In this, he would no doubt say he is merely following his father’s will. "Listen to me, Roboute," the light ghost hisses. ” Rogal: “The child has the features of Roboute, yet is quite clumsy. ’ ‘What else? What else are you?’ ‘I am Alpharius,’ said Thiel. He used Cypher to his own ends too. Guilliman turned to look at Prayto. Then, the way he coalesces different versions of himself from across the galaxy so that he can have a coherent enough mind and personality to speak with Guilliman - I didn't specifically imagine it this way but it made perfect sense. As proof, he has the support of the Custodes, including the Emissary Imperators themselves. Business, Economics, and Finance. They are still a part of the Emperor's glorious Angels of Death :) ReplyYou say that the remaining legions were all exemplary, but the problem is many of the traitor legions were also exemplary before the heresy, such as the Luna wolves and the EC, so how do you handle the risk that a exemplary chapter CAN go off the rails. Guilliman has tried for over a decade to convince the Imperium and its leaders that the Emperor is not a god, with no success. Guilliman is Justinian. The Lion needs the reminder. Guilliman sent a message to Sanguinius as he approached the Sol System. ‘I find your familiarity refreshing. ’ ‘Thief. Guilliman seems to be adopting many of the mannerisms of Julius Caesar though. ‘A compromised primarch is still a primarch,’ the Emperor mused, still distracted. '. Mortarion was trying to pull all of ultramar into warp and needed to kill Guilliman by disease but he ended up calling to emperor who set fire to the garden. As soon as it turns sunshine and rainbows it's not 40k anymore. The reason he follows the Emperor closely is because (most of the time) he thinks those two things align. Guilliman ultimately wants nothing less than to destroy the Imperium as it exists and rebuild it anew. We see this in Devastation of Baal, where they vote Dante leader of their campaign -- but not uniformly. And his status as the Emperor's only living, loyal son does come with a lot of clout; but he can't go beating people over the head with it. He may yet serve. if any chaos or say xenos dude did the same action with the same ease, in the course of a single book, to the center of. ’ ‘I fear he is beyond hope. Guilliman had no illusions. Sure, Guilliman is likely to turn the leadership of Nurceria to newly educated, non-violent ex-slaves while offering Angron a place if he want to deal with bureaucracy. They were things. Dark Imperium: Godblight, the next book in the Dark Imperium series, was announced during the Black Library Preview way back in December 2020. ‘Guilliman is a misguided fool at best, and a traitorous dog at worst. I think this is a cool scene because you have a human Imperial arguing against the Emperor being a God which is very rare imo. Colquan glared him. He could not countenance the thought. ’ ‘Failure. Guilliman hates this because he knows it’s merely conditional. This is why the Emperor never made Guilliman Warmaster, he didn't want to make him a bigger target or influence him away from his purpose. Fulgrim's crown, Kairos, Magnus etc he meets Big E. The Word Bearers' way of war had annoyed him. There was no promise. At some point you must realize that there exists things other then governance. ‘No matter,’ said Guilliman. "Lorgar’s arguments are persuasive, but are built on several fallacies for all that. Horus is the brightest star and you carry your father’s face, but Guilliman’s heart and soul are cast in the Emperor’s image. IMO Abbadon < Guilliman < Chaos-Empowered Abbadon = Emperor-Empowered Guilliman. This again would lead to a pretty close brotherhood between the two. Others are not positive like when he called him a tool to be used, and he calls him a Betrayer for setting up Imperium Secundus. Guy Haley, Dark Imperium (2017) The rivalry between Russ and the Lion, Russ’ hatred for the Legionbreaker Guilliman, the Lions secrecy v Guillimans more open and rational way of doing things. CryptoThe Consul said that people needed the light of hope in this dark hour, a shining example of victory to renew their faith not just in the Emperor, but in Guilliman reborn. Couple this with him having a hard time. Khan: would want to reform his legion and operate as a voidborne force. Guilliman tries to kill one in Dark Imperium but that daemon is fated to exist at the end of time so it can't be killed. A lot of people believe that the Lion will start a civil war against Guilliman after waking up and seeing what the Imperium has become. Hey everyone! Wolf Lord Rho here!Today we discuss the revelation of the Emperor's words to his son, the returned Roboute Guilliman. Alerting guilliman, although seeming good at face value, could set off a chain reaction leading to a worse outcome overall. ago. Guilliman is the Emperor’s favorite son. That's true, but I thought you were talking mainly pre-heresy, because now it's obvious Guilliman won't like his traitor brothers. But here he was, alive and breathing. Guilliman stopped his walking and looked down at the woman. Death World savages aren't noble savages, they are just plain savages. They were things. You cannot replace him. As you say, Guilliman does spend a lot of time in the Heresy on Imperium. Or did you take it off His dead knee? I suppose it matters not. Spoilers ahead: "Necessity overcomes morality. IndySoccerFan25 • 6 yr. A literal hope in the Emperor's vision for mankind. In the wiki, this is described quite briefly: Guilliman was left standing alone before the ornate doorway, dwarfed by its immensity. The more I think about it the more I really like the idea of allowing Guilliman to grant a single Ultramarines Strategum use for free to a unit within 6". Populations. Did the emperor love his primarch sons? In the indometus era Guilliman is said to have contemplated this upon his meeting with the Emperor. It's to show us how far Abby's come and that he's a real threat. The Primarchs are already called demigods throughout Godblight. If all else went wrong, he would be heir to the empire. the most normal and pragmatic of the loyalists, next to Roboute, and would probably be the quickest to understand what Guilliman did. One of the most beloved figures in the Imperium, Sanguinius was among both the most noble and mightiest Primarchs. Felix felt the sting of criticism. His charisma, humility, and loyalty to the Emperor to the point of self-sacrifice has earned him a great deal of reverence, even in. ‘Worship the Emperor, if you must, but I am not deserving of your praise, nor will I. The Emperor will tolerate the dreams of his sons–but only insofar as they don't interfere with their actual jobs. The Emperor did not love His sons. The galaxy is turning on its head. ‘He is not my father,’ Guilliman said. Perhaps him hearing the Emperor say “you were my tools” was just what Roboute thought all along, thus the illusion fit the image. Guilliman could use the buff. Guilliman is far more adult than Lion, Lion is an ill tempered, socially awkward commander who relies on the charisma of others to pull through, man literally starts a punch out with Russ over petty shit, almost comes to blows with Sanguinius and Guilliman (LOL) he’s a pretty immature dude. ago. I can't imagine the Lion would go to war with Guilliman if it goes. The Emperor's Sword gives him the edge that he may be lacking. ‘I say that you fear too much, and that Roboute Guilliman is a true son of the Emperor,’ said Achallor. Everyone else may have had more actual power, but not as much authority. ’. ‘Roboute Guilliman. Horus will be forced to acknowledge the Emperor again, and Guilliman and the others will not usurp their true master. Nurgle's garden is incinerated. Guilliman tried to remember how tall the. One might say that the promise of another loyal Primarch existing next to Guilliman would be enough, but I argue differently. His body was a pilgrimage site for nearly ten thousand years. "The Emperor loves us all' lied Roboute Guilliman My last Dark Imperium excerpt was received very well so I wanted to share my other favorite excerpt. He was loved, taught and raised with every care and in the expectation of excellence and success. Guilliman is very painfully aware that he can't simply pick up as 30k intended before everything got twisted, especially when it comes to worshiping the emperor as a god. Guilliman, one presumes, heeded the warning. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. ’ His voice softened further, becoming yet more human, and his heroic expression did not change exactly, but he somehow became more relatable. Guilliman twists and punches his head off. Later, on the way to Terra with Guilliman, they all died fighting hordes of khorne daemons, with Amalrich (he is emperor's champion and marshall, not castellan) saving Guilliman from Skarbrand. ’ ‘He will kill you, my lord. It was the look of the blindly faithful. He did not hear then at all. Lion fought Chaos at Caliban and Sang fought and died on Terra. ‘I say that you fear too much, and that Roboute Guilliman is a true son of the Emperor,’ said Achallor. Guilliman was clad in a magnifcent new suit of armour, an ornate masterwork that had travelled all the way. It's possible the Emperor could destroy it but the circumstances would have to allow it. ago. A cheap tactic. Legally infinite functionality limited. How petty. Guilliman is loyal to the idea of human civilization and progress, not the Emperor himself. Because it never happens. When Guilliman meets the Lion again in 40k. ‘The Emperor denied His own divinity,’ said Guilliman flatly. ‘Father gave you His blade, I see. . Mortarion glanced down at the Emperor’s sword. Eventually, Mortarian and the Death Guard were summoned back to the Scourge Stars, which had come under threat from the War in the Rift. In Dark Imperium it states that Guilliman did speak to the emperor telepathically and the emperor's mind has strengthened to completely new levels however he has lost his patience and humanity in the process, living as a consciousness in a. Colquan glared him. And if the High Lords wish to deny the authority of the Regent, know that they deny themselves to legitimacy of leadership of the Imperium, for they succeeded the Council of Terra on orders of Guilliman's reformation of the Imperium.